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04-22-08, 07:56 PM
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DTVPal - PSIP up to seven days EPG
Please ready this newspaper analogy to understand the problem will ALL CURRENT BOXES using PSIP mode.
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Originally Posted by Beeper
<snip>Think of it in the following way.
Technically the guide time listings are accurate. They don't change, they are resting in the box ready for use. What changes is the time that the box is told it is at the moment by currently tuned station PSIP time. Right or wrong, the box has to use that time as gospel.
Just like if you were looking at the guide in a newspaper. The print never changes. If someone tells you that it is 12 noon and asks you what is on a particular channel, but they lied to you, really it is 1 PM. You will tell them the wrong information as far as what event is currently on.
Secondly, if they then ask you if you could please tune to a particular event that is on at 12 noon and it is really 1 PM, you can't.<snip>
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So you see any box that you buy will have the same problem using PSIP time.
Please also read reviews to understand boxes
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04-22-08, 07:57 PM
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DTVPal - PSIP up to seven days EPG
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04-22-08, 08:02 PM
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RCA DTA800B EPG - What's on Now/What's on Next
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04-22-08, 08:13 PM
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Channel Master - EPG
Image from dingo99 Review
*Note: Color scheme may be different from example
Channel Information/Program Information

Channel Edit/Favorite Edit
All these boxes share the same menu look
Unique Feature/Menu Example
Video Reviews
Available Boxes
Channel Master CM-7000
Review(s): dingo99 Review
User Manual
Suspected similar boxes
MAG CCB7707
Source: Image in User Manual
User Manual
AVION ATB 7707
Source: Image in User Manual
User Manual
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04-22-08, 08:22 PM
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Full guide and simple guide (Goodmind / GE) EPG
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*Note: Color scheme looks identical to the example
Channel Information/Program Information
Image from HDTVexpert review
*Note: Color scheme looks identical to the example
Channel Edit/Favorite Edit
Unique Feature/Menu Example
Video Reviews
Available Boxes
GE / Jasco 22730
Review(s): CNET Review
User Manual
GE / Jasco 22729
Review(s):
User Manual
Goodmind DTA1000
Review(s):
User Manual
Goodmind DTA900
Review(s):
User Manual
Suspected similar boxes
Goodmind DTA980
Source: Exclusive Retailer Unknown (Should be similar)
Zentech DF2000
Review(s):
User Manual
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04-22-08, 08:29 PM
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Digital Stream - EPG
Image from DrBri99 video
*Note: Color schemes might not vary
Channel Information/Program Information
Image from HDTVexpert review
*Note: Color schemes might not vary
Channel Edit/Favorite Edit
Image from User Manual
Unique Feature/Menu Example
Video Reviews
DTX9900: Channel Change
DTX9900: EPG
DTX9900: Setup
DTX9900: Menus
Available Boxes
Digital Stream DTX9900
Review(s): DrBri99 Review
User Manual made avaliable by Tarwater
DIGITAL STREAM DSP7500T
Review(s):
User Manual
DIGITAL STREAM DSP7700T*
Review(s):
User Manual
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DIGITAL STREAM DTX9950*
DIGITAL STREAM DSP6500R
DIGITAL STREAM D2A1D20
DIGITAL STREAM D2A1D10
DIGITAL STREAM DX8700*
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04-23-08, 10:31 PM
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Magnavox / Philco - EPG
Image from beachbum_50 review
*Note: Color schemes might not vary
Channel Information/Program Information
Image from beachbum_50 review
*Note: Color schemes might not vary
Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Image from beachbum_50 review
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Unique Feature/Menu Example

Video Reviews
TB100MW9: Channel Change
Available Boxes
Magnavox TB100MW9
Review(s): beachbum_50 review
User Manual
Magnavox TB-100MG9*
Review(s):
User Manual
Philco TB100HH9*
Review(s):
User Manual
Suspected similar boxes
Philco TB150HH9*
User Manual
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04-23-08, 10:44 PM
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Tivax - Modified - Now/Next EPG
Image from satpro review
*Note: Color schemes appear to be all in black/blue
Channel Information/Program Information
Image from satpro review
*Note: Color schemes appear to be all in black/blue
Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Image from satpro review
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Unique Feature/Menu Example
Video Reviews
Tivax STB-T9: Setup review
Available Boxes
Tivax STB-T9
Review(s): satpro review
User Manual
MicroGEM MG2000
Review(s): stpinindy review
User Manual
Apex DT250*
Review(s):
User Manual
AccessHD 1010D
Review(s):
User Manual
AccessHD 1010U
Review(s):
User Manual
AccessHD 1020D
Review(s):
User Manual
AccessHD 1020U
Review(s):
User Manual
Suspected similar boxes
AMTC AT-2016
User Manual
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04-23-08, 11:36 PM
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Zenith - Now/Next EPG (Side Menu)
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05-10-08, 05:25 PM
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Artec - Now/Next - xx/xx page (Top Menu) + Color Controls

Image from troydog review
*Note: Color schemes may be different
Channel Information/Program Information
Image from troydog review
*Note: Color schemes may be different
Channel Edit/Favorite Edit
Image from Artec User Manual
All these boxes share the same menu look
Unique Feature/Menu Example

Video Reviews
Artec T3A Pro: Setup review
Available Boxes
Artec T3APro
Review(s): troydog review
User Manual
Artec T3A
Review(s):
User Manual
Suspected similar boxes
Kingbox K8V8
Kingbox K8V1
Both at BHphotovideo - possibly accepts coupons
Kingbox also @ newegg - does NOT accept coupons
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05-10-08, 05:26 PM
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CAX - EPG - (Top Menu)
Will update later from user manuals
CASTi CAX-01
User Manual
DAYTEK CAX-01
User Manual

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05-10-08, 05:27 PM
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Venturer/Winegard - NO EPG - (Top Menu)
NO EPG
Channel Information/Program Information
Images from atrac
*Note: Color schemes are probably not like above
Channel Edit/Favorite Edit
Unique Feature/Menu Example

Available Boxes
Winegard RC-DT09
Review(s): Popeetheus review
User Manual
Venture STB7766G
Review(s): atrac review
User Manual
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05-10-08, 05:28 PM
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No EPG - Just Channel Information/Program Information
NO EPG
Channel Information/Program Information

Images from Nightowl4
*Note: Color schemes are probably not like above
Channel Edit/Favorite Edit
Unique Feature/Menu Example

Available Boxes
Sansonic FT300A
Review(s): MikeBiker Review
User Manual
Sansonic FT300RT
Review(s):
User Manual
Lasonic LTA-260
Review(s):
User Manual
Gridlink GLT-200
Review(s):
User Manual
Suspected similar boxes
Lasonic LTR-260
Gridlink GLT-300
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05-11-08, 01:50 AM
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Nicely done! I think your interest in epg and controls is more important than signal pass thru, for me at least.
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05-23-08, 03:04 PM
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New URL for DTVPal @ FreeFTVShop
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freedtvshop .com/fdtv/ converters/tr40.php
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This URL re-directs to their main page... The new link is:
www. freedtvshop .com/fdtv/ converters/dtvpal.php
(Take the spaces out - it's not letting me post a URL right now.)
I just ordered a pair of boxes, and was indeed quoted $14.95 for the two boxes - $2.50 each, plus $9.95 flat shipping (1 or 2 boxes).
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