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Old 04-22-08, 07:56 PM   #1   |  Link
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DTVPal - PSIP up to seven days EPG

Please ready this newspaper analogy to understand the problem will ALL CURRENT BOXES using PSIP mode.
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<snip>Think of it in the following way.
Technically the guide time listings are accurate. They don't change, they are resting in the box ready for use. What changes is the time that the box is told it is at the moment by currently tuned station PSIP time. Right or wrong, the box has to use that time as gospel.

Just like if you were looking at the guide in a newspaper. The print never changes. If someone tells you that it is 12 noon and asks you what is on a particular channel, but they lied to you, really it is 1 PM. You will tell them the wrong information as far as what event is currently on.

Secondly, if they then ask you if you could please tune to a particular event that is on at 12 noon and it is really 1 PM, you can't.<snip>
So you see any box that you buy will have the same problem using PSIP time.
Please also read reviews to understand boxes

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Old 04-22-08, 07:57 PM   #2   |  Link
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DTVPal - PSIP up to seven days EPG

Uses a PSIP EPG not TVGuide


Channel Information/Program Information


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit


Unique Feature/Menu Example



Video Reviews
Unboxing | Setup - Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4

Confirmed Boxes
Dish Network DTVPal*
Review(s):
User Manual
UPC: 753960010557

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Old 04-22-08, 08:02 PM   #3   |  Link
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RCA DTA800B EPG - What's on Now/What's on Next


Image from HDTVexpert Review
*Note: RCA DTA800B is only known box with What's on Now


Channel Information/Program Information


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Image from YouTube Video
All these boxes share the same menu look


Unique Feature/Menu Example


Video Reviews
RCA DTA800B: Video Demo

Confirmed Boxes
RCA DTA800B
Source: CNET Review
User Manual

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Old 04-22-08, 08:13 PM   #4   |  Link
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Channel Master - EPG


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*Note: Color scheme may be different from example


Channel Information/Program Information


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

All these boxes share the same menu look

Unique Feature/Menu Example

Video Reviews

Available Boxes
Channel Master CM-7000
Review(s): dingo99 Review
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes
MAG CCB7707
Source: Image in User Manual
User Manual

AVION ATB 7707
Source: Image in User Manual
User Manual

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Old 04-22-08, 08:22 PM   #5   |  Link
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Full guide and simple guide (Goodmind / GE) EPG

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Full guide from CNET Review | Simple from Goodmind Manual
*Note: Color scheme looks identical to the example


Channel Information/Program Information

Image from HDTVexpert review
*Note: Color scheme looks identical to the example


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Unique Feature/Menu Example

Video Reviews

Available Boxes
GE / Jasco 22730
Review(s): CNET Review
User Manual

GE / Jasco 22729
Review(s):
User Manual

Goodmind DTA1000
Review(s):
User Manual

Goodmind DTA900
Review(s):
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes
Goodmind DTA980
Source: Exclusive Retailer Unknown (Should be similar)

Zentech DF2000
Review(s):
User Manual

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Old 04-22-08, 08:29 PM   #6   |  Link
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Digital Stream - EPG


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*Note: Color schemes might not vary


Channel Information/Program Information

Image from HDTVexpert review
*Note: Color schemes might not vary


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Image from User Manual

Unique Feature/Menu Example


Video Reviews
DTX9900: Channel Change
DTX9900: EPG
DTX9900: Setup
DTX9900: Menus

Available Boxes
Digital Stream DTX9900
Review(s): DrBri99 Review
User Manual made avaliable by Tarwater

DIGITAL STREAM DSP7500T
Review(s):
User Manual

DIGITAL STREAM DSP7700T*
Review(s):
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes
DIGITAL STREAM DTX9950*
DIGITAL STREAM DSP6500R
DIGITAL STREAM D2A1D20
DIGITAL STREAM D2A1D10
DIGITAL STREAM DX8700*

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Old 04-23-08, 10:31 PM   #7   |  Link
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Magnavox / Philco - EPG


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*Note: Color schemes might not vary


Channel Information/Program Information

Image from beachbum_50 review
*Note: Color schemes might not vary


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Image from beachbum_50 review
All these boxes share the same menu look


Unique Feature/Menu Example


Video Reviews
TB100MW9: Channel Change

Available Boxes
Magnavox TB100MW9
Review(s): beachbum_50 review
User Manual

Magnavox TB-100MG9*
Review(s):
User Manual

Philco TB100HH9*
Review(s):
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes
Philco TB150HH9*
User Manual

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Old 04-23-08, 10:44 PM   #8   |  Link
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Tivax - Modified - Now/Next EPG


Image from satpro review
*Note: Color schemes appear to be all in black/blue


Channel Information/Program Information

Image from satpro review
*Note: Color schemes appear to be all in black/blue


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Image from satpro review
All these boxes share the same menu look


Unique Feature/Menu Example


Video Reviews
Tivax STB-T9: Setup review

Available Boxes
Tivax STB-T9
Review(s): satpro review
User Manual

MicroGEM MG2000
Review(s): stpinindy review
User Manual

Apex DT250*
Review(s):
User Manual

AccessHD 1010D
Review(s):
User Manual

AccessHD 1010U
Review(s):
User Manual

AccessHD 1020D
Review(s):
User Manual

AccessHD 1020U
Review(s):
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes
AMTC AT-2016
User Manual

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Old 04-23-08, 11:36 PM   #9   |  Link
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Zenith - Now/Next EPG (Side Menu)


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*Note: Color schemes vary


Channel Information/Program Information

Image from BobDiaz Review
*Note: Color schemes vary


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

All these boxes have a side menu and Now/Next EPG

Unique Feature/Menu Example


Video Reviews
Zenith DTT900: Video Review
Zenith DTT900: What's In The Box?
Insignia NS-DXA1: CC example

Available Boxes
Zenith DTT900
Review(s): CNET Review
User Manual

Insignia NS-DXA1
Review(s):
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes

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Old 05-10-08, 05:25 PM   #10   |  Link
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Artec - Now/Next - xx/xx page (Top Menu) + Color Controls


Image from troydog review
*Note: Color schemes may be different


Channel Information/Program Information

Image from troydog review
*Note: Color schemes may be different


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit

Image from Artec User Manual
All these boxes share the same menu look


Unique Feature/Menu Example


Video Reviews
Artec T3A Pro: Setup review

Available Boxes
Artec T3APro
Review(s): troydog review
User Manual

Artec T3A
Review(s):
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes
Kingbox K8V8
Kingbox K8V1
Both at BHphotovideo - possibly accepts coupons
Kingbox also @ newegg - does NOT accept coupons

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Old 05-10-08, 05:26 PM   #11   |  Link
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CAX - EPG - (Top Menu)

Will update later from user manuals

CASTi CAX-01
User Manual


DAYTEK CAX-01
User Manual

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Old 05-10-08, 05:27 PM   #12   |  Link
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Venturer/Winegard - NO EPG - (Top Menu)

NO EPG

Channel Information/Program Information

Images from atrac
*Note: Color schemes are probably not like above


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit


Unique Feature/Menu Example


Available Boxes
Winegard RC-DT09
Review(s): Popeetheus review
User Manual

Venture STB7766G
Review(s): atrac review
User Manual

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Old 05-10-08, 05:28 PM   #13   |  Link
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No EPG - Just Channel Information/Program Information

NO EPG

Channel Information/Program Information

Images from Nightowl4
*Note: Color schemes are probably not like above


Channel Edit/Favorite Edit


Unique Feature/Menu Example



Available Boxes
Sansonic FT300A
Review(s): MikeBiker Review
User Manual

Sansonic FT300RT
Review(s):
User Manual

Lasonic LTA-260
Review(s):
User Manual

Gridlink GLT-200
Review(s):
User Manual

Suspected similar boxes
Lasonic LTR-260
Gridlink GLT-300

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Old 05-11-08, 01:50 AM   #14   |  Link
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Nicely done! I think your interest in epg and controls is more important than signal pass thru, for me at least.
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Old 05-23-08, 03:04 PM   #15   |  Link
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New URL for DTVPal @ FreeFTVShop

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freedtvshop .com/fdtv/ converters/tr40.php
This URL re-directs to their main page... The new link is:
www. freedtvshop .com/fdtv/ converters/dtvpal.php
(Take the spaces out - it's not letting me post a URL right now.)

I just ordered a pair of boxes, and was indeed quoted $14.95 for the two boxes - $2.50 each, plus $9.95 flat shipping (1 or 2 boxes).
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